[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to Underdog, to Unstoppable. I'm Nicole Anderson, and today we're proving that no matter the odds, resilience rewrites the story. You're watching now Media Television.
Welcome to Underdog to Unstoppable. I'm Nicole Anderson, and for this show where we honor fighters, dreamers and builders who were counted out, overwhelmed or underestimated, but refused to quit. Today's conversation is about one of the most invisible forms of strength, caregiving.
So many people become caregivers without training, preparation or roadmap. They step in because someone they love is aging seriously ill, disabled, isolated or facing a crisis. And suddenly life changes.
Today's guest is Ms. Sheila Warnick, Co author of Share the Care and founder and CEO of Share the Caregiving Incorporated.
Sheila's path began through deeply personal caregiving experiences. Caring for her elderly mother from a distance, supporting her best friend Susan, through terminal cancer, and later forming another care group for her co author, Kathy Capocella.
What Sheila discovered changed her life and others. Caregiving does not have to be the burden carried by one person alone. With structure, compassion, community, care become shared, organized, sustainable and deeply human.
Sheila, welcome to.
[00:01:33] Speaker B: Thank you. I am so delighted to be here. Really appreciate it.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: So, you know, I, when, when we talk about caregiving, it's, it's rather challenging sometimes. I, I myself have been a caregiver and it's a topic that a lot of people go through. They.
Compassion fatigue and different things. And so I'm really interested in learning, you know, what drove you in the past? Like what, what got you here to this place.
[00:02:06] Speaker B: Well, it's a long road, but it all makes a lot of sense.
I started my caregiving back in the mid-80s when there was nothing for caregivers. We didn't have the Internet, we didn't have cell phones. We didn't have organizations that dealt with caregivers. We didn't have books about it. Nothing. There was nothing.
So I started caregiving for my mother because she was a widow. My father had passed.
My only brother was in the State Department in Japan.
So everything fell to me.
And of course, I wanted to do the best I could for my mother. And even though I really never thought about caregiving, even though, you know, my mother was a nurse and my father was a teacher, and those were two roads they did not want to travel.
And lo and behold, look at where I am today teaching people about caregiving.
So you never know where you're going to end up.
But I was traveling like five and a half hours each way to get to her.
I was there mostly four days of the week and I had to quit my job. I was freelancing, I was an art director. I couldn't work.
And when you're a freelancer, you have to be there 200%.
So my friends didn't understand what was going on with me because their parents weren't haven't reached that stage yet. So they didn't really get it.
So I became extremely isolated.
It was like living in a glass bubble around my head and everything. Caregiving, caregiving, caregiving, figure out how to do this, learn how to do that. It was just constant and I couldn't escape.
I did an excellent job taking care of my mother because I loved her so much. I did everything.
The one person he didn't take care of was me.
I was just from nervous break day at the same time that I'm going through this period of four years with my mother where I am her main caregiver.
My best friend, Susan Farrow was a divorced mom with two young teens and she discovered a lump behind her ear that turned out to be a rare terminal cancer.
She was given an eight year prognosis and she went back to work.
All her friends knew about this bout with cancer.
But what they didn't know over the next four years, while I'm taking care of my mother, I'm trying to help Susan, was that her cancer kept coming back and back and back. It became bone cancer.
So she had more serious, she had more surgeries, more radiation.
And after four years, I reached a point with my mom where I knew I could not keep it up.
And I needed to consider a nursing home because she needed 24, 7 care.
That was another whole horrible moment in my life. Having to find a nursing home for my mother, which brought broke my heart. I went to eight of them before I found one that I thought would be good.
And just as I moved my mother in there, my friend Susan had a crisis.
And it was actually her therapist, Dr. Suki Miller, who broke through to Susan and said, susan, Susan, call your friends, get them to my office tomorrow night.
We'll figure out how to help you.
And she broke through and did it. She called 15 people and the next night I was there with 11 other women who I did not know. I knew two of them, the rest were names I had heard of but never met.
And I also looking around the room at other people, I felt a great sense of relief.
Thank God it's not just going to be me anymore. It's going to be Other people here to help.
My late co author, Kathy came to the meeting and she was terrified.
She said, I've never taken care of anybody or anything in my life, not even a pet, and I don't know if I can do this.
She just wanted to run away.
But she stayed.
We all stayed.
And Dr. Miller asked Susan, please tell your friends what's really going on with you.
And so she did.
It was hard.
She cried.
She told everyone.
And the other women in the room were horrified. They didn't. We didn't know this. Well, I know, you know, this is. This is such a shock or, oh, my God, how am I going to help you? I got so many other things I have to do. And it was just a mix of emotion in that room.
And so finally we just rolled up our sleeves and we got to work that night.
There were 12 of us.
We decided we'll work in teams of two and we'll call those teams captains of the week.
We always had two people because if something came up in the life of one captain, there was always another to keep the ball rolling.
And we would go to Susan every week and find out, what do you need this week?
What are your appointments? What do you need from the store? What can we do for you?
Then the captains would go back and call everybody else, get the jobs filled, and give Susan a schedule of who was coming when to do what, for how long, so she could relax.
The big thing this did for Susan was she never had to ask for help.
We went to her.
Asking for help is the hardest thing in the world for people.
And another team would rotate in the following week, and the ball would keep rolling and rolling and rolling.
And we started in the next morning.
And for three and a half years, we did everything under the sun.
Cooking, shopping, cleaning, doctor's appointments, medications, getting the air conditioner fixed in July, you know, whatever, anything.
We took her to the Bahamas for an alternative cancer treatment, which didn't work, but we kept someone down there with her for a week at a time.
But probably the most wonderful thing we did for her, just a few months before she passed away, her youngest daughter was getting married.
So we organized the entire wedding under Susan's direction, as if she were going to do it.
Soup de nuts, everything.
It was beautiful.
And the bride, I remember thanking her parents for the beautiful wedding. It was at Tavern on the Green in New York.
And then she thanked all her other moms for making it happen.
We were really Susan's funny family.
That was a name that was given to us.
[00:10:50] Speaker A: Sheila Your story reminds us that caregiving can be fear, exhaustion and uncertainty. Mostly fear, right? Because you have no idea what you're doing. Sheila, your story reminds us that caregiving can begin in fear, exhaustion and uncertainty, but it can also become the birthplace of a new kind of community similar to what you described with your friend Susan, a community of women helping women.
When we come back, we'll talk about the real weight caregivers carry and why sharing care is not weakness, but it is wisdom. We'll be right back. Stay tuned. We'll be right back with more unstoppable stories and strategies for turning obstacles into opportunities.
And we're back. I'm Nicole Anderson, and you're watching Underdog to Unstoppable on NOW Media Television. Let's keep pushing past limits together. Welcome back to Underdog to Unstoppable. I'm Nicole Anderson, and we're here today with Sheila Warnock, founder and CEO of Share the Caring, Inc. And co author of Share the Care.
In our last segment, we were, we were learning about Sheila's journey, what led her to forming Share the Care. And she talked to us about building a community of women, of friends, of her friend to go through everyday task and share the burden of caregiving so it isn't on one person.
So, Sheila, we want to, we want to talk a little bit more. We want to dive deeper into what, what it's like to be in a community that is sharing the, the, the experience, experience of caregiving. Tell us a little bit about that.
[00:12:33] Speaker B: Well, it's incredible what can be done when you have a group of people involved in the same situation. I mean, it's like we all grow up. We're on like teams of all kinds or we're in a play with a bunch of other people. And everybody plays a part.
Everybody has a special talent that they use.
So Share the Care evolved kind of in steps because after Susan died, we knew we had done a good thing, but we had no idea how good until we got a phone call one day.
Cappy and I worked together in advertising.
We were a creative team.
So we were working away one day and the phone rings and it's this woman who says, you don't know me, but I met Susan in cancer care, and she used to talk about her funny family all the time.
And she said, I'm like, Susan, I'm divorced.
I have a young daughter, I have an elderly mother, and I'm about to have a bone marrow transplant.
I'm going to need a lot of care.
And I don't think they'll be able to do it.
But I do have 20 friends that want to help. Do you think I could have a funny family?
So I remember looking at Cappy, and we both are going, oh, my God.
And we called our team together to meet with this group as well, to tell them how we worked and what we did.
And this group was different because there were men in the group.
And I remember walking into that meeting and just amazed there were so many people there for this. And we began talking about how we had our Captain system. We developed seven principles, we had forms, and all kinds of systems. But then we spoke about what we gained personally from helping Susan, because Dr. Miller asked us in the first meeting we had, what are you going to get out of helping Susan?
I thought she was crazy. I thought, I didn't come here to get something.
I came here to help my friend.
But she made me say something. I don't know what it was, but I do know what I said in this meeting with this other group.
I said, I finally learned how to be a good caregiver because I wasn't doing everything myself.
I learned how to let other people in, which is what, like, a family member would have to do. You know, let the different personalities work with the person who's. Who's ill.
And another woman shared how she always wanted children, but she couldn't have them.
Her husband didn't want to adopt, and she had all of this nurturing inside of her that was just spilling out when she was helping Susan. So that's what she gained. Everybody got something different.
And as we spoke and talked to them, I saw these people change.
They transformed before our eyes.
They went from, oh, my God, what is this? Like, we were at the first meeting, too.
That's what they did.
We could do that. They didn't say anything. We could see it in their face.
We could do this. This isn't hard. This makes a lot of sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's get going here.
And they were so excited, and the room was filled with so much love.
That night was what inspired Cappy and I to decide to write Share the Care so that people would have a roadmap on how to do what we had done and they wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel.
So that's what we did.
And I'll show you. This is a picture of.
You can see it, Cappy and I, when we wrote the book back in 1990, 1995.
So a lot younger then, but because we worked together in advertising, we were a Perfect team. I had almost killed myself trying to take care of my mother.
And Cappy had never taken care of anybody in her life. So we made up the audience that we were trying to reach.
The book was published in 1995 and we got amazing, amazing media coverage.
They did a full page story on us in the Washington Post.
And then a few weeks later, my sister in law and brother who were living in Washington now, sent me another clipping about that article where a woman had read it, had a friend who needed help, started a group for her, and they were about to do a fundraiser to raise money to pay off her medical bills.
Well, Kathy and I were so moved because we know that the book worked.
People could pick it up, follow it, hold this important meeting which is the heart of share the care, bond the people and make it work.
That to us was like, oh my, thank you, God.
We were so happy. And it began spreading all over the country and even to other countries around the world that I don't know how it got there. Got their word of mouth.
So
[00:18:47] Speaker A: what are some of the challenges you faced in the beginning of, of writing the book and spreading the message?
You know, it's, you're, you're essentially, you're starting, starting a business, you're starting a venture, and whether that's going into nonprofit or writing a book or, you know, something like that, it's, it's. What were some of the challenges you faced in the beginning of writing the book and starting to give some hope to some of our listeners who, who kind of feel challenged starting something new right now?
[00:19:25] Speaker B: Well, the thought of a nonprofit never crossed my mind or Cappy's mind at the time time, because like I say, it was back then there was barely anything for anybody. Our book was the first how to book for caregivers on how they could make a difference.
Friends could help, neighbors could help, everybody you can imagine can help.
And I want to say that a group is not started by the caregiver or the patient, but rather by two close friends because the book is written to them in the first nine chapters.
How to work with the family and the patient, how to figure out what they need now, who to invite, where to hold the meeting, all that stuff, and how to run the meeting, which is scripted.
It's based on our original meeting and the meetings that have been held all over the world. It's all about heart and love and people.
You have to, to hear your friend say what's going on with her is very powerful. There are no rumors, guessing or you know, fantasizing what's going on. You're, you're based in reality.
And sometimes that's a tough place to be, but it's the place you need to be if you're going to be a caregiver.
So we included that as a crucial part of the, the model.
And what I just want to say about it is, you know, it has worked throughout the full life cycle.
From a woman who had quadruplets here, it was actually in Texas.
She lived in a little, she and her husband moved to a little town in Texas, joined the local church. She was pregnant.
She gave birth to quadruplets.
And there was a woman in the church who had to share the care group for her daughter who had als.
And she said, I know what we can do.
She went to the church and she recruited 50 grandmas and grandpas and younger people to, you know, write up a little bio, put their picture in a book and go to the family and say, we know having one child is a lot of work, having four is overwhelming. And they were very far from their families or their, their friends.
So they volunteered and they became known as the Diaper Darlings.
I love the story.
The Diaper Darlings are all grown up now. But it was one woman who had the experience of a share the care group for her daughter who knew that it could work for somebody else.
And the mother who was a little reluctant in the beginning became a real advocate for it for other multiple birth mothers. You know, this is really a good idea for you.
So we've had groups for a 98 year old woman who lived in rural Wisconsin. She had been a baker and so she knew a lot of people, but she was, you know, lost her sister. She was elderly. It's rough up there in the winter.
And so her neighbor was moving away before she moved away. She.
[00:23:18] Speaker A: Let's come back to finishing that story right after the, right after the break.
This is such a powerful reminder that support does, it does not have to be vague. It can be organized, practical and deeply loving. And after the break, we're going to look into more. We're going to hear more of these phenomenal stories of the life cycle of share of caring, how ordinary people can come together and create a caregiving family that actually lasts. We'll be right back on Underdog to Unstoppable. Stay tuned. We'll be right back with more unstoppable stories and strategies for turning obstacles into opportunities.
And we're back. I'm Nicole Anderson and you're watching Underdog to Unstoppable on NOW Media Television. Let's keep pushing past limits together. Welcome back to Underdog to Unstoppable. I'm continuing my conversation with Sheila Warnick, co author of Share the Care and founder and CEO of Share the Caregiving, Inc.
Sheela and her co author Cappy Capisola documented the systems used by their caregiving group in the book Share the Care how to Organize a Group to care for someone who is Seriously Ill.
Little did they know that they would be using this together in the near future. Sheila, can you tell us about that?
[00:24:35] Speaker B: Yes.
It was another rather dramatic event that occurred about seven years after the first edition of Share the Care came out in 1995.
In 2002, Cappy's father, who was 86 but in great shape mentally, physically, and Cappy were both diagnosed with glioblastoma, grade 4 brain tumors within two weeks of one another.
This was so shocking and so just unbelievable.
I mean, I couldn't believe it. I had. I had called up to see Kathy, went to see her parents to visit her father, and next thing I knew, I called up there to see how things were, and her mother said, I can't talk. We're taking Cappy to the hospital.
So I ended up organizing another group, this time for Cappy. It was called Cappy's Brain Trust, and there were 35 people in it at the end. But in the first meeting, there were maybe 20 friends.
And we were so shocked and so upset and so determined that we were going to help her no matter what, Cappy decided on having brain surgery as opposed to radiation or chemotherapy.
Unfortunately. Unfortunately, this choice left her unable to speak very well. She couldn't write, she couldn't walk, she couldn't do anything. By the end, she. She couldn't even move on her own.
And 10 months later, both she and her father died within 12 hours of each other.
That is what made me say, I'm going to start an organization to get Share the Care out to a wider audience.
And it's the only thing I could think of to do just in Cappy's memory. So I started going out to speak to caregivers. Unfortunately, when I thought about it, when I was a caregiver, I didn't look for help because there was none. But now nobody came. There was like two people would show up. So I said, this is not going to work.
So I figured out the best way for me to reach caregivers would be through the health professionals, the nurses, the social workers, the chaplains, the people that worked with caregivers and support groups and things like that.
So I developed a curriculum to teach them. It was an approved, accredited training for professionals. And I went around the country. I did them all over the place and up in Canada, and there were several big programs that went on up in Canada, as well as in Hawaii and Wisconsin and other places.
So again, it was spreading, but this time the focus was a nurse or a social worker sees more caregivers than I do in a lifetime.
So this is my focus now.
So I updated the book in 2004 and added 50 pages of new information that came out of working with Cappy and her group. Because we had to work together differently. We had to assign specific jobs to people. Besides their regular job, they had another job that didn't rotate but was just theirs. And it was based on what they were good at.
And so that, that was my focus all the way up to the pandemic, was teaching.
And we got great feedback from doing these conferences and teaching. And I even had a nurse who joined our board. And we were talking about how share the care could make a big difference for patient discharge.
Because when a patient comes back to the hospital after being discharged for a reason that's not really critical, they get fine for that.
So it's a big deal to make sure that the people taking the patient home understand what they need to do or learn specific protocols for ALS or Alzheimer's or whatever you're dealing with.
And just telling the caregiver is not the right choice because they're so frightened and so nervous. It goes on in one ear and out the other. So if you have two or three other people listening, taking notes, asking questions, it's more likely in what they think is an emergency, it's not really an emergency, and that a phone call could deal with the whole thing.
So that's another area.
And I really see share the care being part of the curriculum for nursing and social work, because it doesn't cost anything.
The books are not that expensive. You need two books to give to the two people who will lead the meeting. It's nice if everybody has a book, but it's not essential.
But this book is about having the meeting, about all the things they need to keep going, do's and don'ts, things that they didn't think of doing, Taking a patient out of state to try another protocol.
There's a million things that groups can do and have done.
So that's what the rest of the book is about.
I also think it would be, if I have time now to just mention seven principles that we created for share the care that make a lot of sense and they are. Sharing responsibility is key to not burning out.
I mean, groups can start on their own anywhere, but they're not going to last too long because the work falls on one or two people who can't handle it.
Know your limits and stick to them if you are part of a share the care group. If you get nervous going into hospitals, don't take a job that requires you going into the hospital to visit or do anything. Just there's a million other things you can do.
It's about uncovering the skills within the group as well.
It won't work unless everyone gains something personally.
And I mentioned that earlier about that question that was given to us at the first meeting, and it's true.
You've got to find something. You don't know what it is, but you will find something that you have learned or that you have gained from having done the work.
Importantly, there's no one right way to do something.
You got 10 people in a group, you're going to have 10 ways to do one thing.
So you have to decide on one choice.
Go with it.
If it doesn't work, you got nine more other choices.
So you're using the experience, the talent, the creativity and the ideas that come out of a group of people. That's what's so exciting about this group.
Anyone who wants to help should be encouraged.
You don't ever want to say to someone, oh, no thanks, never mind, we don't need you.
Because you're going to burn out that light in them that wants to give.
And that's the most precious thing about anybody, is a light inside of them that wants to give.
So find a job for them. If they don't know the patient, let them do a job that doesn't involve the patient.
Trust the group and support each other.
Your group is your family.
You have to help each other when it's needed, back each other up, take on a little extra load to make something work.
Not every job is good for one person. You might need three or four, but you trust each other.
And last of all, keep your own life in good working order while you're a caregiver. Because if you go down, you know, that's what I tell people who I don't want to grow up. I don't want to grow up. I'm fine how I am.
Well, what happens if your caregiver gets sick or something worse happens? What's going to happen if you won't let people in.
Besides, allowing others to help you is giving them a gift.
I know it doesn't sound like it, but it's giving them a because they're going to discover how strong they are, how brave they are and how courageous they are and they're going to be able to help more people or just, you know, explain how this is benefiting each and every one of us.
And especially now that people hardly talk anymore. They text each other, we need to talk.
We need to look in the eyes of our friends and see how are you doing? You know, do you need a hug? I mean, you know, it sounds corny, but it's true.
You can't tell that over a telephone call or a text.
You gotta have that person to person connection.
[00:35:13] Speaker A: What stands out the most is that caregiving families are not built by perfect people with, with unlimited time. They are built by people who are willing to show up, take one piece of the load and trust that together they can do more than any one person can do alone. When we come back, we're going to talk about you turning your personal loss into personal movement that has reached all 50 states and beyond. So when we come back, just wait. We're going to hear this exciting growth from Sheila. You're watching Underdog to Unstoppable.
Stay tuned. We'll be right back with more unstoppable stories and strategies for turning obstacles into opportunities.
And we're back. I'm Nicole Anderson and you're watching Underdog to Unstoppable on NOW Media Television. Let's keep pushing past limits together. Welcome back to Underdog to Unstoppable. I'm Nicole Anderson and stay connected to this show and every NOW Media TV favorite live or on demand, anytime you like. Download the free Now Media TV app on Roku or iOS and unlock non stop bilingual programming in English and Spanish on the move. Catch the podcast version at NowMedia TV.
Welcome back to Underdog to Unstoppable. I'm here with Sheila Warnick, founder and CEO of Share the Caregiving, Inc. And co author of she Share the Care.
Sheila, you, you've told us of this journey and you, you lost your business partner, you lost your, your second brain to building this amazing movement.
And now that you, you explained to us that you, you've had a lot of growth after 2005.
So tell us about this unstoppable journey that you're on and, and what you're, what you're planning on doing to continue this journey of you and your business partner, Cappy.
[00:37:14] Speaker B: Yes.
Well, first of all, this is our 30th year since share the Care was first written.
So I'm very proud of that because I'm telling you, we were the first. First one out there with this kind of information that helped people a lot, especially since around that time, you know, was when the AIDS crisis was going on. And I know it was used by some groups that were dealing with AIDS patients, but that was such a hard, difficult time. I knew so many people that died. It was terrible, and it was scary for people. They didn't know what to do and what rumors were true and this and that, but.
But they came out and took care of their own.
So, you know, having a network is very important.
And so I'd like to remind people, especially people who live alone, that you also need a network.
We all need a network. You don't have to be young, old or anything. It's just we all need friends. We all need people we can call up and say, help me. I need help right now. Can you. Can you do this?
And the way you build a network is by getting out there and helping other people or joining something, creating something together, Some.
Some organization that's doing something that really sings to you. Get involved, make friends.
And also, and this is again, for everybody.
And we don't like to think about these things. We don't like to think about caregiving death or dying. That's like, forget about it. But getting your act together.
Where are your important papers?
Do you have someone who's to going. Going to take care of things if you should suddenly get ill or pass away or something, you know, you're going to make it really hard for people if nobody can locate important documents or know what your best wishes are. If you were ill.
Do you want to do not resuscitate thing? Do you want to be part of a hospice program?
There's just so many things, and there's a lot of books out there to help you think about how to organize those. Those kinds of things. But I think it behooves all of us to get a bit organized.
Find out who your tribe is. Try to connect people in your tribe.
You know, give your friends each other's telephone numbers in case they need to reach each other.
Let your family know if you live far from them.
So the other thing I'm working on a third edition of Share the Care.
Because over the last few years, especially during the pandemic, nobody could go anywhere.
So we had to find ways of helping each other where we didn't show up. In the home.
And that also applies to people who have dementia or Alzheimer's disease. You can't have 20 people trooping in and out of the house, different people all the time. You will upset the person who has Alzheimer's disease or even dementia. They require very organized, stable environments that nurture them, not upset them in any way. And so I'm adding some pieces into the book about how groups can work that way.
And especially if the person who has like early stage Alzheimer's has no family who's going to watch out for them.
So there is a way to do it, but you also then have to be very, very connected to health professionals who understand the disease. And you can go to them when you need the right advice.
Because Share the Care is about caregiving and keeping a group together and bonded and working. We're not experts on ALS or Alzheimer's disease. Those are things that a specific group will learn about, will get training on so they can operate carefully. There was a group in Hawaii that had over 100 people.
It was for a woman who was a well known artist on the island and her mother had died of als, her twin sister died of als.
And then she got the disease and she knew what it was all about.
But she had so many people who loved her and it was just, they did so many wonderful things.
They took her out, they, they had parties, they had dress up parties. Whether they took her into the ocean on a special flotation thing, I mean, where you, when, you know, someone really wants to do something. Like we took Cappy to Fire island, which is like an island in, you know, off in New York that has no cars.
So it was a track we had to take like an ambulet out there. And then the other people that came out brought out all the food and all the other stuff, the paraphernalia that we needed for Cabbie. But we got her out to her beautiful house before she died.
And if she had died out there, it would have been okay because there wasn't a place on earth she loved more.
But she made it home and she died after her father had passed away.
So the other exciting thing is seeing how it's moving to other countries and how. I was recently spoke at a health conference and most of the audience were Spanish people. So they had a lot of translators there. And when I spoke, they translated my speech as I went along. Like every paragraph was translated. And these people were so excited. And I did have some forms in Spanish that had been produced for me by another ALS group.
So like I'd love the book to be in Spanish as well. That's one of my goals. If I could ever find a publisher who would do it.
I've spoken to people in France, in Spain and I know they were pre. I saw a presentation from Iceland talking about Share the Care and the, the seven principles. I mean it blew me away. It's oh my God, look at this.
We're all over because everybody in every country, every community gets it.
[00:44:57] Speaker A: You know Sheila, as we, as we begin to wrap up, what, how, how do people get in touch with you? How do they learn more about Share the Career?
[00:45:08] Speaker B: We have a website, www.sharethecare.org and they can read about what it is.
All of our forms are on the website that can be downloaded.
There's stories.
We divided the website into sections for caregivers and their friends, for health professionals.
Faith communities have used Share the Care a little differently, but used it and also for corporations because they got plenty of caregivers going to work every day.
We got to give them a little help.
But there's also, we have a telephone number on there.
But mostly people can write to me at
[email protected] We're a non profit organization working under the fiscal umbrella of the national center for civic innovation 501c3.
So yeah, people have questions, they can contact me.
[00:46:32] Speaker A: Absolutely. And we, we really hope that people reach out to you because this is, it is an amazing.
As someone who's had to be a caregiver for someone in the past, like having a village would have made it so much easier.
Wasn't so much as a village, just had a few people.
It was helpful. But having a village would have been a lot easier.
Thank you for bringing your story, your heart and your unstoppable commitment to this conversation.
Today we talked about caregiving, burnout, friendship, grief, community and the power of transfer. Transforming personal pain into a practical model that helps others feel less alone.
What am I taking away is this? Sometimes the comeback is not just surviving what happened. Sometimes the comeback is building something that keeps other people from having to survive it alone. To everyone watching, if you are caring for someone or if you know someone who is, remember this. Asking for help does not make you weak. It may be the first step towards building the kind of support that makes love sustainable. I'm Nicole Anderson and this is underdog to unstoppable.
